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Talking about inclusion – in French

I was invited to take part in a panel discussion in Paris, France on June 3, 2021. The event was titled Recontres BrutPop: Pédagogie musicale et inclusion. The organiser of the event, BrutPop (, is a French-based music activist group that organises events, experimental music workshops and created DIY instruments for people with special needs. In the panel discussion I was asked to reflect upon inclusion within music and music education guided by questions such as: Is inclusion a fixed objective, or a direction? Is it something that can be reached? Who does the responsibility of the process of inclusion fall on? What responsibilities for institutions versus for individuals? How to move forward together?

You can see the panel discussion here (I speak English, other participants speak French):


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